Can't wait to see the total mis-management of 3 seperate projects along with the total mis-management of the town hall project. This will be a situation worth watching. 'Hey Moe! Hey Curly!'. This guy is throwing around 4 million dollar figures with no clue.

Isn't it interesting how the town council is is able to reinterpret the intent of a referendum (OSTF) as it suits their need to find funds to "keep up with the Jonses" in athletic fields. If the true intent of the OSTF over time was to fund athletic field improvements and maintenance, there would very likely have been a whole lot less support. If used as Mr. Carew suggests, to pay for what amounts to a Township general fund obligation, the monies collected as a result of the OSTF are property taxes going by another name.
Perhaps another revenue source, not hi-jacked OSTF revenue, should be found for the athletic fields in the Township.
We were told to expect an infusion of close to $500,000 yearly in property tax revenue as a result of the recently passed liquor sales referendum.
Maybe the increased property tax revenue (not liquor license fees) generated by the Mall could be allocated to the K.I.D.S. Initiative.
Plaque at newly renovated field--"The improvements to this athletic facility courtesy of PREIT."

Floating a 15 year bond to pay for something that lasts 12 years with limited use. Who thinks this is fiscally responsible? How about fixing the $500K worth of lights at Jeff Young before repaving a parking lot? Which is more dangerous lights falling on our kids heads or stones getting caught in our tires? After all that's what KIDS was originally predicated on, safety for our kids because our fields were so dangerous. Oh yeah, not a single insurance claim in 20 years on our dangerous fields. What's the new excuse why we need them? I've lost track.

Boy, are we going to have FIELD DAY with The Republican Town Council! Go Testa! Go Button! Go Republicans. Maybe we will see a LAX BANNER SOON.

They just lost the election.

VOTE FOR US IDIOTS - we will waste your money on PLASTIC FIELDS.

I don't remembering looking if Moorestown had plastic fields when we moved here? Did you?

Carfew, where do you get your funny ideas? Kmart?

What is most interesting, as UTR and The Situation state, " Here is another train disaster which Mr. Button will most like mismanage and screw up again ". Great platform for him to stand on in the next election.

And, what is most surprising is all this is done with no binding commitments from any of these special interest sports teams, private clubs! Go figure.... it is free money boys and girls...... out of our Senior Bank Accounts and Life Savings....

Even PREIT doesn't have a binding agreement.

Way to do business Button. No pre-nups.

All of this provided with hard earned taxes from OUR REPUBLICAN TOWN COUNCIL.

Who ever thought the 1% Jocks and Our Republican Town Council mis-lead by Hon. Mr. Button would really pull of this ripoff of 2011? Yes, less than 1% are ruling Moorestown and stealing money from MOS. You MOS People were fools to take down your signs. I think Button took it as another YES vote....

Hi Mike.. where do you suggest I deliver the coal?
Do you have knowledge if they all are running again? Who is to say since he's mentioned here that Button won't run again? Or whoever? What's your gossip?
Relax my little elves I'm sure these issues will be watered down and compromise somewhere.
I have seen go hard working people on both sides of thes debates and will keep my stash of coal on hold unless someone thinks a particular someone should get coal in their stockings??
MERRY CHRISTMAS to all! Hohoho!

riddle me this....if the grass fields are so good why did flag football move the chamionship games to the turf field?

riddle me this....who was the deep thinker last night that wanted to sell Pryor to baseball for a buck so they can own the fields?

WASTE WASTE WASTE

MILLIONS wasted for designs

STREETSCAPING we dont need

BUILDINGS we dont need

FIELDS we dont need

LAND we dont need

LIQUOR we dont need

SPEND SPEND SPEND

WHO CARES its not your money right

WAKE UP

The sky is falling ... on our Open Space fund. Watch it here: http://homebrewsjavajive.blogspot.com/2011/12/sky-is-falling.html

Nicely made my dear elf.
How about the other side, do you have a counter video or comment?
I like to be entertained while my sleigh is being set for Christmas eve

that's a beautiful sunset homebrew, what a waste. shame you didn't speak up last night and tell council what you really think. oh wait maybe it was your idea to lauch the red herring about selling a ball field to baseball. that was a good one.

Hi AB,
you may have missed my point....actually i will happily write a check,,,not a big one because i dont have deep pockets and because i already pay my taxes in town (which include a tax for rec), plus the various fees that the clubs/rec pay. So, its not other peoples money...its all our money, and we already pay alot and should expect our township staff to maintain and when needed invest in our assets.... streets, fields, libraries, etc.

I think you should ask "lenola ruler" what he thinks, oh but wait we may need a lawyer to figure this one out?
What dis you say at the council meeting last night or wait, maybe he wasn't there?
Hoho

Homebrew..... (by the way, liquor referendum wasnt for home alcohol production!)
per your message and video,,,, we dont have an Open Space Fund....we have an Open Space, Recreation, Farmland and Historic Preservation trust fund- i respect your "preference" for certain uses- but stop the lies and misleading rhetoric. we voted in overwhelming numbers to support the referendum, which was all clearly spelled out. People should have voted "no" if they didnt want some of those uses. they voted yes in big numbers. get over it.

Ok your point taken Michael . I'll give Homebrew a 30 sec rebuttal ...

mike
riddle me this...what would you do if you owned a football team and the coach who was supposed to be coaching the team from the sidelines continued to send in plays to the huddle that only a couple of players could hear and then acted shocked when the team looked confused and disfunctional on the field?

what if the other players weren't interested in what the coach or his assistants had to say even though they are in large part the reason their on the field in the first place.

according to carew, the taxes raised over the next 17 years will be 13,000,000 and some think we shouldn't spend some of that on recreation improvements. 13,000,000 dollars and the only open space people suggest to buy is a house that they want to tear down. are you kidding me? with that much money, we should fix all the parks or give it back

utr, riddle me this...isn't it the fans that the game is really played for, not the legacy of the coaches?

In most cases I'd say you are right. But in this town there the fans don't matter. "win at all costs" rules the day. Sad really.

Thumbs up to Mr. Carew for seeking innovative, alternative ways to fund field improvements. But thumbs down for his hints that selling naming rights, sponsorships, and signage will offset, in any substantial way, the enormous expense of the proposed new syn turf field and "The Project Formerly Known as KIDS". As this oldie-but-goodie video shows, even the Recreation Advisory Committee couldn't agree on this "divsive" issue. http://homebrewsjavajive.blogspot.com/2011/04/say-what.html

Here's an idea: Solicit sponsorships and sell signage and naming rights for the existing syn turf field (you know, the one we're still paying for) and for all the field complexes in town. Then we'll be able to judge if Mr. Carew's idea has real merit, or if it's just a zombie canard that won't die.

Oh, and be sure to check out the latest video. Every time you do, an angel gets its wings. http://homebrewsjavajive.blogspot.com/2011/12/sky-is-falling.html

Homebrew,

riddle me this...are you going to badger carew to solicit sponsors and sell signage for the library before the building moves forward?

Whoa! Wait, do we already have a turf field?
Was that bonded for 15 years too?
I'm confused.
Is turf good or bad?
Good day

What's up with the Christmas decorations on Main St?
How do we make Moorestown look a Christmas festive town? When do the Lenola Christmas decor get a facelift? What does it take?
It seems that Our Lady of Good Counsel has it right!

Ok what if we sod the field that we are talking about after draining repairs? We could have garden centers and landscapers donate.
Homebrew sponsored field?

hey home brew old buddy i just heard it thru the grapevine that u is looking for some good old boys to run against them gbt fellas in a primary how do i get me one of them spots i promise to do whatever you tell me to do and i promise not to tell them demucrat fellas that its 2005 all over again

Mr. Hines raised a critical issue that should not be buried or forgotten. Revaluation means devaluation. The township's ratable base will shrink, probably beginning in 2013, and so will receipts from the Open Space tax levy. Thus, if I'm understanding correctly, council will need to increase the Open Space tax in order to collect the same amount we're currently collecting, about $464,000 annually.

Given the looming revaluation and consequent reduction in Open Space tax receipts, how can we "have it all" (adequate funding for open space acquisition and maintenance AND another million-dollar syn-turf field, etc.) without raising taxes?

home brew there you is! got any room on that ticket for a good old boy?

When isn't $13 million of our tax dollars enough on top of $20 million already spent? So if what you say is true and a reevaluation lowers values, it will also lower the value of available open space. DA! Do you know of any more farmers who want to sell? If we keep losing values and students, we might just need some more homes to be built hopefully some for low and moderate income folks that have been kept out of Moorestown.

actually point is whether its 12 or 13 million, its a boatload of our tax dollars on top of what has already been spent...in this econcomy and in a town that has major issues (have you been on main st or at the mall)....we need more businesses and taxpayers.... buying homes for sale and bulldozing them isn't open space....its time to spread the wealth.....any good ol boys disagree?

Hey now "homey", "clown" and grapevine" , I'm getting close to open my stash of coal. We may need to consult "a lawyer" for your strategy. What primary? Do you know all three gallo, button, testa are all running? Is one not running? Clear the air, or wait .. You are a dem? If so, you'd root on gbt in the general over any dems? As for what is understood the three are running again, so I'm guessing no primary, and guessing that you are starting unsubstantiated rumors . Or maybe you want ye three to announce something? Or should there be placeholders, maybe you may be familiar with? Now, let me not start looking for that coal.

riddle me this secret santa....don't you have some elf friends who can tell you who is running?

Oh man mr "homey clown" perhaps them glasses should be checked.? You are guessing right, I believe, there is a secret with what you asked. What game do you suggest should happen? Oh those little elves? Ha, is that anoter little secret? Do you know what your talking about? I'm impressed how obsessed you are with the republican candidates. Why is that? Is this little elf up to something?
As of right now, GBT are running for reelection so that's all you need to be concerned about, eh?
As I said, I'm headed back to look for that stash of coal because I may need to distribute. Hohoho!

There was a rumor swirling that the apparent future moorestown liquor board rep is thinking of a exotic liquor establishment coming soon, perhaps "Harley davidson Cafe". And there it is his own thought of a "biker bar".
Any other wild thoughts ?